Renting Accommodation in France

We lived in AirBnBs for our first 3 months in France. This had advantages: we got to know the area so could decide where we wanted to live, without being fixed into a contract / having to move all our things. However, a big drawback was that it was really hard to receive mail: the French postal service doesn’t like delivering mail to an apartment if your name is not on the postbox – we tried sticking ours on, but it was removed! This rendered all the other practicalities of moving more difficult. So, we were excited to finally start looking for a permanent place…

I imagine that it varies from agent to agent, but we found the process remarkably long and detailed – it was pretty much harder than buying a house in the UK! In all, from choosing a place to moving in took a month, though I think the August holidays were a factor in this.

At some point (occasionally even before you see a property) you will be asked to provide your ‘dossier’. This seems to require pretty much your entire life history. We were asked to fill in the following form. On the back, you can see the list of documents required, and I’ve elaborated / translated below.

ID – scans of passports, this is easy enough.

Proof of address: ‘Quittance de loyer ou taxe foncier’ – we used a council tax bill from the UK

‘Titre de séjour + carnet de travail’: We didn’t have a title de séjour at the time, so we just included my Swiss work permit.

‘Livret de famille’ (family book) – we provided our marriage certificate

Employment contract, highlighting the type of contract (CDD – contrat de durée determiné – fixed term contract or CDI contrat de durée indeterminé – permanent contract), annual salary

Salary slips for the last 3 months. I had already been working in Switzerland for more than 3 months when we moved, but otherwise I guess that UK salary slips would have been fine too.

“2 dernières avis d’imposition sur le revenu” – I can’t remember actually sending our tax returns to them, but maybe we did.

RIB (Rélève d’identité bancaire) – Summary of your banking information, This doesn’t exist in the UK but I think we just provided recent bank statements. We have since acquired a French account – the RIB just contains the name and address of the bank and our account number.

We also provided links to our glowing positive AirBnB guest reviews, and pictures of the house we own in the UK, which apparently would help us to secure the apartment (there were other people who wanted it).

Sounds like a lot? Well that was just the initial request!

Further on through the process, they decided that we had to have a French bank account, putting us in the classic catch 22 situation that it’s hard to get a bank account without an address, and vice versa. In the end, we set up an account with “Britline” (a section of Credit Agricole) – as fairly fluent French speakers, we felt bad resorting to the bank aimed at helpless Brits, but it did make it really easy to set up an account with our UK address and later move it over to our French address.

Before we moved in, we had to provide proof of insurance for the apartment, which we got through Direct Assurance (there are comparison sites like in the UK – I have now forgotten the English name of https://www.lesfurets.com/)

And then just at the last minute, they told us that we would have to pay the deposit and first months rent by cheque! Apparently this is common in France, but we didn’t have a working cheque book so we managed to convince them, after quite some debate, that we could do a bank transfer. I was half-tempted to write them a cheque with an outdated Halifax cheque book – I think they would have been happier with that, and it may have taught them that cheques are not secure!

Incidentally, we still don’t have a cheque book and so far it hasn’t been a problem – I see it as an attempt to educate the French that cheques are a bad idea. One of my colleagues sees it as a refusal to fit in with local customs.

Finally, we secured ourselves a lovely flat – hurrah!

Yes, it took a while for us to unpack!

Buying a Car in France

Firstly, there are two bits of vocabulary that are used all over the place and you’re expected to know what they mean:
Carte Grise – Certificate of Ownership
Carte Verte – Certificate of Insurance

I may have missed something, but nearly all cars seem to be sold be at garages – there are few private sales. This may be because the paperwork for transferring ownership of a car seems to be more complicated than in the UK. You have to log on to a system which requires a French social security number – something you’re unlikely to have if you’ve just arrived here and are working in Switzerland.

There are some specific car-based websites, but like many things in France, the best place too look seems to be https://www.leboncoin.fr/ which looks suspiciously like gumtree in the UK – I imagine it’s owned by the same people.

So – Find a car, agree the purchase and send the money to the dealer. Note that second-hand cars are generally more expensive than the UK. We considered importing out UK car, or some people buy from Germany or Spain (at least then you’d have left-hand drive) but my research suggests that it’s unlikely to be worth the hassle.

Buy insurance – https://www.lesfurets.com/assurance-auto is the equivalent of a UK comparison website one whose English name I have forgotten. It worked out that directassurance.com was cheapest for us – I remember that we had to speak to them on the phone quite a bit in French, which my wife didn’t enjoy! They really want a “Relevé d’assurance auto” – a document from your previous insurer which lists your history of car insurance, even if you’re not trying to get any no-claims bonus. An obvious challenge, as this doesn’t exist in the UK – I managed to get my UK insurer to write a specific letter and email it to me – eventually this worked, but I had to translate parts over the phone and it had to have the current date on it – very complex!

A final complication of the process was that in order to “sign” the contract online, you need to receive a code to your mobile phone… which must be a French number. We didn’t have one (and in fact we still use our UK contracts because it’s free to call family!) so had to get our hands on a pay as you go SIM from the supermarket. We still use this as our French number, when one is necessary.

When you have completed the insurance ordeal, take a copy of your temporary insurance certificate to the garage, along with proof of address (ours accepted a receipt from AirBnB – I feel that we got lucky here!) to the garage, which will charge you to transfer ownership. The garage we bought from tried to charge us 500€ for “frais et plaques”. I pointed out that the official government fee was more like 250€, so convinced him to charge me just this – I don’t think new number plates are worth the other 250!

You can work out how much it should cost here: https://www.service-public.fr/simulateur/calcul/cout-certificat-immatriculation#main

Side note: French number plates have a small number indicating a department (county) – this used to be the department that you live in, but now it can be anything, so it seems largely irrelevant.

Your Carte Grise will arrive in the post, you then need to send a scan of that to your insurance company to validate the insurance, then and only then, will they send you your Carte Verte, which includes a small square portion which you should display in the windscreen of your car. This is simple enough, unless you were living in an AirBnB like us, in which case you can’t receive post very easily in France! More on that in the accommodation section!

Living in France, Working in Switzerland

I recently made the move from the UK to France and found it surprisingly difficult to find information online about some of the boring but necessary practicalities.

There are a few sites that want to charge you money for their services, but I was looking for fairly simple, generic information so I wouldn’t expect it to be proprietary.

Nonetheless, it proved remarkably hard to find information online and people I spoke to didn’t seem to have a clear picture of how things worked either! The most common responses were: “we live in Switzerland”, “my husband deals with that” or “we pay someone to do that for us”. Being a thrifty Northerner, I wasn’t having any of the final option!

Finally I have muddled through and worked things out, so I thought I would share the thrills of admin in France / Switzerland.

A few things I plan to write about:

Health Insurance

Banking

Buying a car

Renting Accommodation

Tax in Switzerland

Tax in France

Carte de Sejour

And just in case this feels a bit much… a few reminders of how great it is to live here:

Just over an hour to Chamonix, for walks with amazing views of Mont Blanc.
20 Minutes to your nearest ski resorts, to get above the clouds in winter.
Great festivals in Geneva all summer… beer, food, music, film.
About an hour to Col de la Colombiere, where we started this walk.
My commute isn’t too shabby either.
Fancy a weekend in Verbier? No problem.
Bargain wine tasting weekends in glorious Lavaux.
You’ll struggle to find this view in the UK.